he stood up for president obama, then senator obama. >> i can't trust obama. i have read about him and he is not -- he is an arab. >> no, ma'am. no, ma'am. he is a decent family man. chris: wow, kelly. >> what a moment. i was in the room for that as i was in the chamber when joe wilson shouted you lie. it was a ricochet in the room at that time. with senator mccain so striking, you could feel the entire room take a deep breath. he had a decision to make in that moment. am i working with this crowd of supporters or am i going to say the thing that has to be said. to pull the microphone back from one of your supporters is a tough thing for politicians to do. i think that's one of the more defining moments about him in the campaign, but one of the most difficult moments. chris: a great john mccain at that moment. >> he had been flirting a little bit with the dark side. things were getting desperate in the campaign. he saw this kind of irrational anger that was coming out of republican audiences. he just couldn't go there. it was a moment of real honor. >> during